[Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]]
Daniel Melnechuk
isis at isisdesign.com
Thu Oct 19 17:30:36 EDT 2006
Devon,
I love the sound of the choir! And thanks for the rx!
Peace,
Dan
On Oct 18, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Devon at Green-Rainbow.org wrote:
> Dan,
>
> Preaching to choir, we GRP folk know
> ad-hoc kludges from sustainable solutions.
>
> Peace
> --Devon
> /~\
> \ / Health Care
> X not warfare
> / \
>
> Dubya won the digital vote
> Kerry won the popular vote
>
> PS; The temporary fix is the rx for now,
> I subscribed to <GovAnnounce at GraceAndMartina.org>
> and it works fine.
>
> In-Reply-To: <20061017074228.178D67CCA at green-rainbow.org>
> From: Daniel Melnechuk <isis at isisdesign.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification
> (Failure)]]
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:53:48 -0400
> To: Devon at Green-Rainbow.org
> Cc: tech at green-rainbow.org
>
> I have no problem with a kludge to deal with some issue until the
> elections are over. But i disagree with hand editing the addresses in
> the long run. Computers are supposed to make it easier. And so to not
> have the computer do the work is silly. Yes i know what files to edit
> and what to add, and so do you. But not everyone does and they don't
> need to if the tools were working... which they were up until this
> change of domain name. If you take the logical extreme of your
> argument to ridiculous levels, might as well edit ones and zeros and
> get back to real roots! Turing would be proud!
>
> Peace,
> Dan
>
> On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:42 AM, Devon at Green-Rainbow.org wrote:
>
>> I had a feeling I left something out...
>> if a kludge gets us through the election,
>> works for me! We have less than 600 hours.
>> In the end all those fancy tools are doing is
>> editing those basic files for us so why not just
>> put in the mumble-* addresses which will work fine.
>>
>> Peace
>> --Devon
>> /~\
>> \ / Health Care
>> X not warfare
>> / \
>>
>> Dubya won the digital vote
>> Kerry won the popular vote
>>
>> PS: A permanent fix might also have
>>
>> $ check_perms
>>
>> no longer spew a huge mess.
>>
>> In-Reply-To: <20061016213247.3138F7D3D at green-rainbow.org>
>> From: Daniel Melnechuk <isis at isisdesign.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification
>> (Failure)]]
>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:24:20 -0400
>> To: Devon Sean McCullough <Devon at GraceAndMartina.org>
>> Cc: Tech GRP <tech at green-rainbow.org>
>>
>> Devon,
>>
>>
>> Ok, looks like you added:
>>
>> govannounce at graceandmartina.org govannounce at green-rainbow.org
>> govdiscuss at graceandmartina.org govdiscuss at green-rainbow.org
>>
>> into virtusertable. Hummm. Should not be needed since we integrated
>> mailman into postfix and that is why the genaliases command is used
>> to regen the aliases that put the list at the right place. Your two
>> lines are a hack for the moment but we need to see why the genaliases
>> is not working. They will NOT handle the other 9 aliases needed for
>> proper functioning.
>>
>> I had tried earlier doing what i had done before to move lists to new
>> domains (which worked before) like graceandwendy.org lists to
>> graceandmartina.org:
>>
>> I did:
>>
>> /usr/local/mailman/bin/fix_url.csh govannounce graceandmartina.org
>> /usr/local/mailman/bin/fix_url.csh govdiscuss graceandmartina.org
>> /usr/local/mailman/bin/genaliases
>>
>> # for good measure...
>> postfix reload
>>
>>
>> The following lines from postfix main.cf include the mailman aliases
>> and mailman virtual domains:
>>
>> # Insert text from sample-virtual.cf if you need virtual domain
>> support.
>> virtual_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtusertable,
>> hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
>>
>>
>> # For GRP MailMan, include the mail list aliases after the system
>> ones.
>> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
>> hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
>>
>>
>> AH HA! graceandmartina.org lists are NOT in the file /usr/local/
>> mailman/data/virtual-mailman!
>>
>> The aliases ARE there in the aliases file /usr/local/mailman/data/
>> aliases:
>>
>> # STANZA START: govannounce
>> # CREATED: Tue Oct 3 16:31:02 2006
>> govannounce: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
>> govannounce"
>> govannounce-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
>> unsubscribe govannounce"
>> # STANZA END: govannounce
>>
>> # STANZA START: govdiscuss
>> # CREATED: Tue Oct 3 16:31:02 2006
>> govdiscuss: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
>> govdiscuss"
>> govdiscuss-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
>> govdiscuss"
>> # STANZA END: govdiscuss
>>
>> So the problem is /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman. Ok. Now
>> what.
>>
>> Changed owner to "mailman" for aliases and virtual-mailman as it says
>> they should be. Reran fix_url.csh and genaliases. No luck -- virtual-
>> mailman is unchanged. The aliases file has the correct forwards for
>> the lists...
>>
>> Any thoughts for real fix?
>>
>> I am falling asleep at the keyboard... good night.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Devon Sean McCullough wrote:
>>
>>> Fixed.
>>>
>>> Peace
>>> --Devon
>>> /~\
>>> \ / Health Care
>>> X not warfare
>>> / \
>>>
>>> Dubya won the digital vote
>>> Kerry won the popular vote
>>>
>>> PS: All but the following addresses will bounce
>>> info at ...
>>> devon at ...
>>> govannounce at ...
>>> govdiscuss at ...
>>> which appears to be what you want, please confirm.
>>> ... at GraceAndWendy.org, etc. should all work likewise.
>>>
>>> PPS: Please use my new address <Devon at GraceAndMartina.org>
>>> for Grace & Martina related matters because all my other
>>> mailboxes are drowning in spam and thus take longer.
>>>
>>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:02:25 -0400
>>> From: Melissa Harrell <lissagrp at gmail.com>
>>> To: tech at green-rainbow.org
>>> Subject: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification
>>> (Failure)]]
>>>
>>> Resending..........
>>>
>>> ok, this is a HUGE problem for us. This has been ongoing. For some
>>> reason our listservs are set to use the domain "green-rainbow.org"
>>> and
>>> they should be using "graceandmartina.org" Can we fix this? People
>>> have
>>> not been able to sign up from the website and we've got enough
>>> problems
>>> maintaining the site as it is. People also aren't able to
>>> respond to
>>> our discuss list.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Melissa Harrell
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:32:55 -0400
>>> From: Richard Zeliff <zeliff at gmail.com>
>>> To: harrell3207 at gmail.com
>>> References: <3272547746754586150 at unknownmsgid>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I think you have some problems with your mailman configuration.
>>>
>>> Also, the newsletter signup applet on http://
>>> www.graceandmartina.org/
>>> refused to sign me up, claiming zeliff at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com> was an invalid email address.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Mail Delivery Subsystem * <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com
>>> <mailto:mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>>
>>> Date: Oct 14, 2006 11:29 AM
>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>>> To: zeliff at gmail.com <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>>>
>>> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>>>
>>> govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>
>>>
>>> Technical details of permanent failure:
>>> PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550
>>> <govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>>: User unknown
>>>
>>> ----- Original message -----
>>>
>>> Received: by 10.78.157.8 <http://10.78.157.8> with SMTP id
>>> f8mr5288144hue;
>>> Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Received: by 10.78.173.1 <http://10.78.173.1> with HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct
>>> 2006 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <2d812c990610140829q6bae1d92vb3ab83d2b19a63cc at mail.gmail.com
>>> <mailto:
>>> 2d812c990610140829q6bae1d92vb3ab83d2b19a63cc at mail.gmail.com> >
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:29:21 -0400
>>> From: "Richard Zeliff" <zeliff at gmail.com <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com>>
>>> To: govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>
>>> Subject: Re: confirm 494710978e77cbe2c0564196da3bbfca2c14baca
>>> In-Reply-To: <mailman.
>>> 0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:mailman.0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org>>
>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>> boundary="----=_Part_33650_28699358.1160839761225"
>>> References: < mailman.
>>> 0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:mailman.0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org>>
>>>
>>> ------=_Part_33650_28699358.1160839761225
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> Content-Disposition: inline
>>>
>>> On 10/14/06, govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org> <
>>> govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list
>>>> GovAnnounce
>>>
>>> ----- Message truncated -----
>>>
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