[Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]]
Devon at Green-Rainbow.org
Devon at Green-Rainbow.org
Wed Oct 18 13:56:51 EDT 2006
Dan,
Preaching to choir, we GRP folk know
ad-hoc kludges from sustainable solutions.
Peace
--Devon
/~\
\ / Health Care
X not warfare
/ \
Dubya won the digital vote
Kerry won the popular vote
PS; The temporary fix is the rx for now,
I subscribed to <GovAnnounce at GraceAndMartina.org>
and it works fine.
In-Reply-To: <20061017074228.178D67CCA at green-rainbow.org>
From: Daniel Melnechuk <isis at isisdesign.com>
Subject: Re: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]]
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:53:48 -0400
To: Devon at Green-Rainbow.org
Cc: tech at green-rainbow.org
I have no problem with a kludge to deal with some issue until the
elections are over. But i disagree with hand editing the addresses in
the long run. Computers are supposed to make it easier. And so to not
have the computer do the work is silly. Yes i know what files to edit
and what to add, and so do you. But not everyone does and they don't
need to if the tools were working... which they were up until this
change of domain name. If you take the logical extreme of your
argument to ridiculous levels, might as well edit ones and zeros and
get back to real roots! Turing would be proud!
Peace,
Dan
On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:42 AM, Devon at Green-Rainbow.org wrote:
> I had a feeling I left something out...
> if a kludge gets us through the election,
> works for me! We have less than 600 hours.
> In the end all those fancy tools are doing is
> editing those basic files for us so why not just
> put in the mumble-* addresses which will work fine.
>
> Peace
> --Devon
> /~\
> \ / Health Care
> X not warfare
> / \
>
> Dubya won the digital vote
> Kerry won the popular vote
>
> PS: A permanent fix might also have
>
> $ check_perms
>
> no longer spew a huge mess.
>
> In-Reply-To: <20061016213247.3138F7D3D at green-rainbow.org>
> From: Daniel Melnechuk <isis at isisdesign.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification
> (Failure)]]
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:24:20 -0400
> To: Devon Sean McCullough <Devon at GraceAndMartina.org>
> Cc: Tech GRP <tech at green-rainbow.org>
>
> Devon,
>
>
> Ok, looks like you added:
>
> govannounce at graceandmartina.org govannounce at green-rainbow.org
> govdiscuss at graceandmartina.org govdiscuss at green-rainbow.org
>
> into virtusertable. Hummm. Should not be needed since we integrated
> mailman into postfix and that is why the genaliases command is used
> to regen the aliases that put the list at the right place. Your two
> lines are a hack for the moment but we need to see why the genaliases
> is not working. They will NOT handle the other 9 aliases needed for
> proper functioning.
>
> I had tried earlier doing what i had done before to move lists to new
> domains (which worked before) like graceandwendy.org lists to
> graceandmartina.org:
>
> I did:
>
> /usr/local/mailman/bin/fix_url.csh govannounce graceandmartina.org
> /usr/local/mailman/bin/fix_url.csh govdiscuss graceandmartina.org
> /usr/local/mailman/bin/genaliases
>
> # for good measure...
> postfix reload
>
>
> The following lines from postfix main.cf include the mailman aliases
> and mailman virtual domains:
>
> # Insert text from sample-virtual.cf if you need virtual domain
> support.
> virtual_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtusertable,
> hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
>
>
> # For GRP MailMan, include the mail list aliases after the system
> ones.
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
> hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases
>
>
> AH HA! graceandmartina.org lists are NOT in the file /usr/local/
> mailman/data/virtual-mailman!
>
> The aliases ARE there in the aliases file /usr/local/mailman/data/
> aliases:
>
> # STANZA START: govannounce
> # CREATED: Tue Oct 3 16:31:02 2006
> govannounce: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
> govannounce"
> govannounce-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
> govannounce"
> govannounce-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
> govannounce"
> govannounce-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
> govannounce"
> govannounce-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
> govannounce"
> govannounce-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
> govannounce"
> govannounce-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
> govannounce"
> govannounce-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
> govannounce"
> govannounce-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
> govannounce"
> govannounce-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
> unsubscribe govannounce"
> # STANZA END: govannounce
>
> # STANZA START: govdiscuss
> # CREATED: Tue Oct 3 16:31:02 2006
> govdiscuss: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-admin: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-bounces: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-confirm: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-join: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-leave: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-owner: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-request: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-subscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
> govdiscuss"
> govdiscuss-unsubscribe: "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
> govdiscuss"
> # STANZA END: govdiscuss
>
> So the problem is /usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman. Ok. Now
> what.
>
> Changed owner to "mailman" for aliases and virtual-mailman as it says
> they should be. Reran fix_url.csh and genaliases. No luck -- virtual-
> mailman is unchanged. The aliases file has the correct forwards for
> the lists...
>
> Any thoughts for real fix?
>
> I am falling asleep at the keyboard... good night.
>
> Peace,
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Devon Sean McCullough wrote:
>
>> Fixed.
>>
>> Peace
>> --Devon
>> /~\
>> \ / Health Care
>> X not warfare
>> / \
>>
>> Dubya won the digital vote
>> Kerry won the popular vote
>>
>> PS: All but the following addresses will bounce
>> info at ...
>> devon at ...
>> govannounce at ...
>> govdiscuss at ...
>> which appears to be what you want, please confirm.
>> ... at GraceAndWendy.org, etc. should all work likewise.
>>
>> PPS: Please use my new address <Devon at GraceAndMartina.org>
>> for Grace & Martina related matters because all my other
>> mailboxes are drowning in spam and thus take longer.
>>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:02:25 -0400
>> From: Melissa Harrell <lissagrp at gmail.com>
>> To: tech at green-rainbow.org
>> Subject: [Tech] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification
>> (Failure)]]
>>
>> Resending..........
>>
>> ok, this is a HUGE problem for us. This has been ongoing. For some
>> reason our listservs are set to use the domain "green-rainbow.org"
>> and
>> they should be using "graceandmartina.org" Can we fix this? People
>> have
>> not been able to sign up from the website and we've got enough
>> problems
>> maintaining the site as it is. People also aren't able to respond to
>> our discuss list.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Melissa Harrell
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:32:55 -0400
>> From: Richard Zeliff <zeliff at gmail.com>
>> To: harrell3207 at gmail.com
>> References: <3272547746754586150 at unknownmsgid>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think you have some problems with your mailman configuration.
>>
>> Also, the newsletter signup applet on http://www.graceandmartina.org/
>> refused to sign me up, claiming zeliff at gmail.com
>> <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com> was an invalid email address.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Mail Delivery Subsystem * <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com
>> <mailto:mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>>
>> Date: Oct 14, 2006 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>> To: zeliff at gmail.com <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com>
>>
>> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>>
>> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>>
>> govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>
>>
>> Technical details of permanent failure:
>> PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550
>> <govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>>: User unknown
>>
>> ----- Original message -----
>>
>> Received: by 10.78.157.8 <http://10.78.157.8> with SMTP id
>> f8mr5288144hue;
>> Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
>> Received: by 10.78.173.1 <http://10.78.173.1> with HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct
>> 2006 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
>> Message-ID:
>> <2d812c990610140829q6bae1d92vb3ab83d2b19a63cc at mail.gmail.com
>> <mailto:
>> 2d812c990610140829q6bae1d92vb3ab83d2b19a63cc at mail.gmail.com> >
>> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:29:21 -0400
>> From: "Richard Zeliff" <zeliff at gmail.com <mailto:zeliff at gmail.com>>
>> To: govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>
>> Subject: Re: confirm 494710978e77cbe2c0564196da3bbfca2c14baca
>> In-Reply-To: <mailman.
>> 0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:mailman.0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org>>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="----=_Part_33650_28699358.1160839761225"
>> References: < mailman.
>> 0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:mailman.0.1160839483.86920.govannounce at graceandmartina.org>>
>>
>> ------=_Part_33650_28699358.1160839761225
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Content-Disposition: inline
>>
>> On 10/14/06, govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org> <
>> govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org
>> <mailto:govannounce-request at graceandmartina.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mailing list subscription confirmation notice for mailing list
>>> GovAnnounce
>>
>> ----- Message truncated -----
>>
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